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Fallen Angel
10-06-2008, 08:38 AM
c&p from paramount 10/5/08

nagravision 3 work around released today!!

this is worth a front page mention, and it is good news for the entire satellite community for the years to come. nfusion has released a work around for the nagravision 3 encryption system in use by bev for nfl sunday ticket. as of right now, nfusion users can view nfl sunday ticket while plugged into the internet with their nfusion. expect neosat and other iks receivers to have similar work arounds available in the near future.

i am told this was accomplished by nfusion using a subscribed bev smart card in one of their servers, which than lends the encryption code to any nfusion connected to that server. let me stress, this is not a hack, this is a very simple work around, which i believe will have bev on it's toes scrambling to patch without any decent recourse for the next few days. in essence, they will have to find out which exact nagra 3 smart card is being used in order to patch this hole in their system. they will need the exact number of that card. whether that is obtainable through connection to the nfusion server, by bev, is unknown at this time. if it is, do not expect this to last very long. if they are unable to find out the smart card number, they will have to determine, which of the thousands deployed right now it is, and specifically shut down that card through the stream.

this is good news. as most of us know, nagravision 2 was not fully hacked until the final days of the scaling back of nagravision 1. first we saw carded hacks for the weak rom101, than emulation hacks for dvb cards and hours after, hacks for all makes of fta receivers. i will stress again, this is not a hack, but a step in the right direction, which can better help the coders understand the workings of nagravision 3. we will not need a real hack anytime soon, so to see this so early is promising. it will be interesting to watch how long it takes bev to close this loophole, if they can at all, permanently. it will be much harder for dish network to close a loophole like this when they have to pick the card out of the 14 million nagra 3 cards they will have in deployment by the time they have finished their swapout. even if they can find the card, they will never be able to permanently patch it if that was their only recourse, as nfusion will just switch cards, starting the process over again. dish network will need to lobby hard to have receivers with ethernet ports made illegal to import. even at that, they will not be able to stop dealers from selling ethernet ports separately from fta receivers, as there is nothing illegal about an ethernet port with a usb adapter. the game only gets more interesting as time goes on!

end of c&p

as far as paramount saying we won't need a hack anytime soon is a bunch of bull. bev has stopped all it's mecms and key changes for some time now. that is prelude to switching to a new rom encryption. expect bev channels to start dropping on stand alone receivers soon. my guess is later this month.

Chameleon
10-06-2008, 09:20 AM
It is working, but many don't believe that this is a "true" compromiese of N3.


http://i34.tinypic.com/30xfj7t.jpg

Fallen Angel
10-06-2008, 09:25 AM
Definitely, not a "TRUE" compromise, but a definite workaround...I think if Nagra 3 is ever going to be compromised, it would be done by Christopher Tarnovsky...He broke Nagra 2, and is very confident that Nagra 3 will be broken also...

Chameleon
10-06-2008, 09:33 AM
Definitely, not a "TRUE" compromise, but a definite workaround...I think if Nagra 3 is ever going to be compromised, it would be done by Christopher Tarnovsky...He broke Nagra 2, and is very confident that Nagra 3 will be broken also...

Unfortunately, Tarnovsky is working for the "other side" now. :(

Style
10-07-2008, 06:29 PM
Sounds promising but so called piggybacking of a subbed cam id is progress but that will only last for so long! LOL when 4 million are on 1 sub lol!

Fallen Angel
10-07-2008, 07:27 PM
Unfortunately, Tarnovsky is working for the "other side" now. :(

That hurt Chameleon...BUT, on the bright side, if he says it will be cracked, I gotta believe him...Even if someone else does it...If he learned all he knows without any formal training, (self taught), I have to believe there are more Chris Tarnovsky's out there...I'll never give up hope for that...(Then again, thats why I have a motor, and true FTA sats tuned in)...Just in case...

GH05THACK3r
10-07-2008, 08:08 PM
I meet Christopher Tarnovsky 1 day at the Vegas CES, hes a cool dude, knows his stuff! hes just like me! all self tought! and look what he turned out to be and do! and they say that the best come from Harvard, Stanfrod etc! HA in ur face college! hahaha, but i my self have seen and tested fully working DTV cards and 1 guy i know is already working on n3 for bev and is preparing for the n3 dish cards he lives here in FL as well

rpbevking
11-03-2008, 10:02 PM
Dont get caught up in the hype, Thats all i can say

shafikm
03-12-2009, 05:42 PM
I guess it hasnt been cracked yet :( and it seems that it wont for a long time.